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Het Beleg van Krak des Chevaliers of De val van Krak des Chevaliers vond plaats in 1271, waarbij de mammelukken na enkele weken van belegering de hele vesting wisten. Krak des Chevaliers is an easy day trip from Tartus or Hama, the latter city being the most attractive base from which to visit. Wikipedia; In other languages.

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Additional information. Associated task forces (general topics). Some suggestions for GA. I just saw this was nominated for GA; have been working at myself (and still thinking if I should eventually take it to FA); pretty cool that this is getting to GA (which it certainly will)! Syria deserves some positive attention;) If I had the time I would do the review myself.

But I can still leave some (hopefully useful) suggestions for improvement:. Is the image in section Location really necessary? There are already quite a few images in the article and two others of the W side. I do realize though that it adds something because it shows the wider surroundings. Also, if I am not mistaken, the MoS discourages images aligned to the left immediately below a category 2 header (level 2). To reduce the image-'clutter' could it help to illustrate the Architecture section with a gallery or so, with 1 image for each of the subsections that you have?

That would seem like a legitimate use of a gallery to me. I would break up the History section in several subsections, if possible. For example:. History.

First castle/settlement. Twelfth century. Thirteenth century (the earthquake seems like a good divide since the castle was remodelled after that). (Decline and fall? - paragraphs on Baibars). Later history (I would suggest to turn this into a subsection of history; makes more sense). Left aligned images in architecture section; see above.

I would make the subsections in Architecture bigger (3rd level, like this level 3), as it is still quite a big chunk of text. And if you change them, they would also show up in the index (which I personally would prefer).

What seems to be lacking is the actual size of the castle (or I just missed that); what area is actually enclosed by the outer/inner ward? Hope this helps, and good luck at GA!- 04:12, 1 November 2011 (UTC) Ah, there are three images from the south-west but they all offer something different. The one under location puts the castle in its landscape; before I started rewriting the article was the lead image and because of it I assumed Krak des Chevaliers was a barren, isolated place. But I think the image is still useful because of the amount of detail it shows, which is why it's at the end of the architecture section and 800px wide.

The is midway between the two; it's cropped so the castle is the main focus, but the green doesn't convey the same desert-like appearance from the image at the end. I think, the one under location could reasonably be moved up to the lead, what do you think?

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My thinking was as there's space we may as well use it. I looked through for guidance on images immediately below section headers (I thought it was level 3 and below you weren't supposed to put them under) but I'll be damned if I can see the relevant bit. My understanding was that it disconnected the title from the text, but level two headers have the line across which makes a visual break.

I've not had trouble at FAC with left-aligned images below level 2 headers, but I think that's where I was discouraged from putting them under level three. On a related note, dividing the history section sounds like a good idea as it's fairly chunky.

It would create issues with image placement if level three headers were used, so I was thinking of using level 2. Do you think that works or would it be better off using level 3 headers (in which case I would agree with making later history a level 3 header). The architecture section could probably do with the changes you suggest so; at the same time I shuffled the images round.

You didn't miss anything, the size hasn't been included because Kennedy didn't cover the statistics (although I did remove a ludicrous claim that the outer walls were 100 feet thick; someone decided to take the History Channel seriously). I'll have a search of Google books. I'd love to see this article reach FA, but realistically without referencing Deschamps (whose work on Krak des Chevaliers has been widely praised) it wouldn't satisfy the sourcing criteria.

Unfortunately I can't read French but maybe someone will come along who can. Anyway I wish you good luck with the Citadel of Damascus, I'd noticed it when it was at WP:GAN and it looks an impressive article.

13:28, 1 November 2011 (UTC) Hi Nev, I haven't had a chance to read through the whole article yet, but it seems that 'transliterated' is not the best choice of words in the intro. 'Krak' and 'Crac' are just alternate spellings for the same word. If that word comes from Arabic, then both spellings would be transliterations of the Arabic alphabet, if that makes sense. 10:54, 2 November 2011 (UTC) That's a good point, so I've 'translitterated' for 'also'. 13:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC) I made some more copyedits, added some links, etc. The one thing that stood out was the sentence about the chapel, 'The design of the later chapel – with a barrel vault and an uncomplicated apse would have been considered by contemporary standards in France.'

Seems to be missing something. Considered what? Otherwise, there are some parts that are a bit repetitive (the garrison of 2000, the etymology from the Kurdish settlement), but it looks good to me. I see DCI is also about to start his own review, so I'll see if I have any other comments when he has finished. 11:05, 29 November 2011 (UTC) Ah, there was a. It's been about a month since I put the article together so I should be able to approach the prose with fresh eyes. 17:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC) The eymology section is a little repetetive because of the explanation and the similarity in terms and derivation, but I think the figure of 2,000 is mentioned only twice: once in the lead and once in the history section when discussing the castle's golden age.

Did I miss one? 22:58, 29 November 2011 (UTC) GA Review GA toolbox.

Beleg van Krak des Chevaliers Onderdeel van Kruisvaard oorlogen Datum Locatie Resultaat de mammelukken nemen de Burcht in Strijdende partijen Leiders en commandanten? Kruisvaart veldslagen in de Levant (1096-1303) Inter-kruisvaart periode Inter-kruisvaart periode Nasleep van de Late kruisvaart-periode Het Beleg van Krak des Chevaliers of De val van Krak des Chevaliers vond plaats in, waarbij de na enkele weken van belegering de hele vesting wisten in te nemen op van de hospitaalridders. Achtergrond In kochten de ridders voor circa 600 gouden bezanten het kasteel van. Vanwege de lage prijs werd er door de hospitaalridders beloofd dat ze ook de grenspatrouilles bijhielden voor het. In 1268 viel het in mammelukker handen en de kans op steun voor de burcht was nihil. Toch wisten de hospitalers nog drie jaar weerstand te bieden.

Grootmeester had de leiding van de Krak aan Jean de Villiers toevertrouwd, die met kleine middelen weerstand moest bieden. Het beleg. In liet Sultan de voor het eerst belegeren. Alhoewel dit niet lukte, werden er drie anderen kastelen in het gebied wel veroverd. In 1271 ging Baibars er zich persoonlijk mee bemoeien en begon opnieuw een belegering op.

In de burcht waren circa 2000 manschappen aanwezig onder leiding van. Ze dachten deze belegering wel te kunnen doorstaan, omdat de vesting al tientallen keren een belegering had doorstaan. Op de zuidwestkant werd een katapult gestationeerd. Deze wist veel schade aan te richten.

Op wordt er een doorbraak geforceerd op de ingang, en enkele uren later werd ook de oostertoren bijna weggevaagd door katapultinslagen. Maar de ridders wisten nog een hoop te stutten en te barricaderen. Enkele dagen later begeven de Mamulukken zich op de binnenplaats (eerste laag) en op stortte de westvleugel in. De mammelukken stormden vervolgens naar binnen. De hospitaalridders sloten zich als laatste strohalm op in de kern van de burcht.

Op geven ze zich echter over in ruil voor een vrijgeleide van de mammelukken. Na het veroveren van de Burcht werd de kapel al snel verbouwd tot moskee. Referenties. Thomas Biller (Hrsg.): Der Crac des Chevaliers. Die Baugeschichte einer Ordensburg der Kreuzfahrerzeit. Schnell & Steiner, Regensburg 2006,.

Jaroslav Folda, Pamela French, Pierre Coupel: Crusader Frescoes at Crac des Chevaliers and Marqab Castle. In: Dumbarton Oaks Papers, 36, 1982, S. Kennedy, Hugh (1994), Crusader Castles, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, Bronnen, noten en/of referenties.